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Aalieyah Creach,
Great points, I too believe that these artifacts should stay where they are originated from or to be sent back to where they originated from. I don’t understand how people can just take another man/woman art and pride it around in their museums as if they where the ones that discovered it. Also how can they take away from the people that still lived in Greece or other places. I feel they should have their own original artifacts to be able to show their children’s children about their history.
According to http://www.yourdicionary.com the definition of humanism is a belief that human needs and values are more important than religious beliefs, or the need and desire of humans. After studying the pieces of art during the Archaic Period I noticed that their pieces weren’t more so about the religious side where as it was more so about the people. Say for instance in the Kore Figures you see more art sculptures that are of human beings. I think rather than the artist focusing on their religious beliefs they focused more so on the humans and admired and honored the human being for so then the religion. I noticed that even in the temples there where more sculptures of people than anything else such as the in the Temple of Aphaia at Aegina where they have sculptures of the warriors. Seeing this makes me think that people during the Ancient Greece area thought more of their people men, women, and warriors verse their religious beliefs.
Vanele,
I like how you have so many great points to this question. I too also noticed how the Greeks were more focus on the people and the impressions that the peoples gave. I also noticed how they did have every little detail of a human beings body in their sculptures. If you would to research it a little bit more they also had sculptures of people in their temples which is different from most of the previous eras we have study whereas they have mainly things about the religious beliefs and gods.When it comes to “who owns the past” there are several great points form both sides. For example the “Olympia” c750 BCE museum of art is displayed in the museum of art in New York. How or better yet why is it being displayed half way around the world. Some could argue it should have remained in its city or origin while others argue it should be on display for the US to be exposed to. In the argument of who owns the past, In my opinion the art should remain where it was discovered. There is history behind it that needs to or sometimes can’t be explained. To discover fine art and claim it is just not right to me. Art isn’t something you can call dibs on. If you take a trip to the Metropolitan museum of art you can see artwork of Greek artist from 500 years prior. Why is that acceptable. People should allow art to remain part of the culture it was created in. That was a part of a era that made a impact and continues to make impressions on people around the world. But it should remain where it was discovered. There is no rights to be declared when it comes to artwork. There could be spiritual means behind the art work. It’s kind of like someone 200 years from now excavating a close family member and moving there body’s half way around the world because they find the coffins remarkable. To excavate artifacts is one thing but to put them on display no where near where they were discovered just does not sit right with me. There are no rights to be owned by the past in my opinion. Whatever is discovered in this day and age should remain on the homeland it was discovered on end of story. To stake claim in something so beautiful as the bronze statues or the beauty found on simple things such as urns is just not right to me.
Lacey,
I too wonder what those two pieces really represents and that the both of them had their own ideas as to what they wanted the pieces to look like. They also had their own idea as to how they wanted people to view the art. I can also agree that they did in fact went overboard when it came to the revamping of each piece. In my opinion I think they both should’ve left each piece the way they found them.elkingkade,
wow great point you made about them being isolated hit for them to be carefree and seemed to feel safe. I also agree with you when you say that they made their entrance to be a bit intimidated which made it fearful for there enemies to approach them.Minoan and the Mycenaean had many similarities. But I focused more on the artwork of the Minoan culture. Their artwork depicts wealth. They had a fascination with bulls. It was believed the Thunder god had turned himself into gentle white bull. Bulls also represented fertility. Looking back at the artwork is incredible. The detail they had on females was surprising. Some even had wavy hair and red lips. The Minoan art work seemed more realistic then the Mycenaeans. The Mycenaeans had a way of over doing some things. There was evidence of languages that were found on dry clay. These became known as Linear A & Linear B. Linear B is actually the language Homer wrote his novels in.
Minoan built the Knossos which as a depiction of a bull on it. It seems they lived a peaceful lifestyle this could be due to culture or the fact the may of had fleets protecting the coast line.
However when it comes to the Mycenaean’s they were more war oriented in their art work with actual solders on it. They construction their living arrangements so they could monitor fellow enemy’s. There artwork was more elaborate in a unusual way.
There was a decline in the Minoan civilization this is believed to be caused by a volcano that killed thousands and destroyed much land. Affecting the trading routes as well as. On the plus side it helped to preserve what we know today to be fine art.The Egyptian and Mesopotamian cultures where a like in some many areas. I would say that they where more so similar when it came to their god and goddess. They both believe in allow their are speak for how much religion was important to them. They believe in social stratification and that the gods and kings where at the top of the chain while the peasants and salves where at the bottom. After looking that the different art pieces I noticed that the Egyptians’ focus more so on the afterlife and build tombs and pyramids just to name a few, where as Mesopotamians art focus more so on the daily routines and of their lives as well as animals and plants. It seem like the two was influenced by each other in more ways than one.
I was so amazed at the similarities between the Mesopotamia and current times. It was not just enough to have the priest other people had desires to become kings. That reminds me of our current government. Now you have this set of politicians over here on this side of the fence an another leaning the other way. Another way it really reminded and astonished me was the evolution of weaponry and the need to continue with military tactics. Everything was handled with a iron fist there were no peaceful points that were mentioned anywhere. The desire to fight for land, kingship, power, religion, etc continues till this day. I loved how they incorporated the gods more and more as time pasted. I had a great appreciation for the elaborate detailed vases from the Urk era. I observed how each culture was always built on the culture before it. The way it became known as the “cradle of civilization” doesn’t surprise me they evolved from creation a language to incredible weapons. The interesting part was about how the kings thrived on the title but all got killed off in the end. The fact women were not allowed to get a education unless they were considered upper class still amazes me but its similar to those who cant continue their educations beyond high school because they cant afford it. Over 3000 years Mesopotamia has had many cultures and the artwork from what I have seen so far is exquisite.
I must agree it was amazing how each piece showed how the kings ruled in that era and how they showed it through their art. It kinda remind you of today’s time in a certain way according to the news and events that are happening…
Hey Lacey,
I too can agree with you when you said that the piece the carved vessel from Uruk showed a great example of social hierarchy and gave us a view of how they operated in Ancient times.Social Hierarchy seems to have been apart of Ancient Near East since the beginning. I noticed how in the piece the Craved Vessel how the artist showed how they would operative back then. They showed how the Kings ruled everything and how the lower class/slaves worked to get things done and how the animals was a the bottom of the tolling pool. It showed exactly where each class stood/ their rightful place is.
i feel the paintings and cravings played a major role in the lives of people in the prehistoric period. the artist was reminding the people of what they have and can have. it also was a way of showing what type of things interested them. i also believe that the cravings were a way to tell stories back than and to communicate. i to this day see artist using the methods that prehistoric artist use back than with little to no difference.
i too believe that the cravings ans sculptures where use to tell a story and communicate with each other. It was preparing the children and adults for the matter to have a imagination of some sort.
I think that prehistoric art is not abstract simply because you can see what the artist is try to develop. There paintings and sculptures are clear as to what they are evening the painting in the caves you can tell what they are. the prehistoric art is far from not having a physical or concrete existence. Example i would have to use is the sculpture of the woman and how you can tell it was a woman with the many craving of the many parts of a woman, nothing about that craving was abstracted.
